some chaos is probably beautiful
Alrighty, ladies, we can finally gab away. Where the fuck do we start?!
Ok, so the John Locke/Jeremy Bentham (his fake name off the island) is interesting. Both were political figures in real life. Iwikipedia'd Jeremy Bentham and found this:"As requested in his will, his body was preserved and stored in awooden cabinet, termed his "Auto-icon". Originally kept by hisdisciple Dr. Southwood Smith, it was acquired by UniversityCollege London in 1850. The Auto-icon is kept on public display at the end of the South Cloisters in the main building of the College. For the 100th and 150th anniversaries of the college, the Auto-icon was brought to the meeting of the College Council, where he was listed as "present but not voting". Tradition holds that if the council'svote on any motion is tied, the auto-icon always breaks the tie byvoting in favour of the motion.The Auto-icon has always had a wax head, as Bentham's head was badlydamaged in the preservation process. The real head was displayed in the same case for many years, but became the target of repeated student pranks including being stolen on more than one occasion. It is now locked away securely."So I think Locke isn't really dead, but maybe has a wax head? Faked his death?
TaraIncog here: I was all kinds of wigged out about the magic force field or whatever when Ben did the thingy. Sorry, my vocab is down today. But you know what I mean. And also, on a practical note, how was Aaron not starving by the time Penny's boat came? How is Kate going to blow that one off? "Oh, I was breastfeeding and...and..um, it suddenly dried up!" But whatever, I love Lost.
Totally possible. Bentham was also the philosopher who came up with the Panopticon, the prison model in which inmates are always been watched, no matter where they are, but where they cannot see their watchers.Dripping with symbolism, that one.I also think it's totally plausible that Locke dies in 2007/8. When Ben is transported to Tunisia in.. in.. that episode where he recruits Sayid as an assassin, it's October 2005. I think it's a reasonable assumption, then, that the Island has also moved forward in time to the same time -- October 2005, or about 10 months since the Oceanic 6 have been rescued. Locke being dead 2 years after that is totally plausible.Or maybe he's dead in the real world and alive on the Island?
TaraIncog: I read something today that said the entire 4th season actually took place over 9 DAYS. Holy crap. So, theoretically, Aaron would've been without Claire for maybe a day and a half max?But I agree. Whatever, the plot holes are justified by the plot. The Island is magic. Aaron is magic. It's the turnip in his head keeping him alive :)
TaraIncog again: Re: Jill; That shit about Bentham is interesting. My joke with my husband is, "Locke NEVER dies" so, hey, if he's a waxhead or whatever, I can be all, "Nyah-nyah-nyah" with him about that. And Stoprobbers, that panopticon thing is crazy! This dude sounds wacked.
TaraIncognita again. Re: Stoprobbers: LOL re Aaron and the turnip. My child screams after 2 hours so I am telling you, that's some magical shit in the air on that place. I need like a nice, big whiteboard where I can start to piece everything together. Can anybody recommend a good site where I can get a nice synopsis? I've watched every show but I feel like my brain goes out to pasture once it's on. I'm like a little kid and I get all excited...and forget stuff. ALSO: did we find out who Locke's real dad is?
Locke's real dad is and has always been Anthony Cooper, kidney-stealing con man. That's been canon since it showed up on the show.
Re: Locke's dad. I am overthinking this, I know. I know! But, remember when they showed Locke's mom and she was a teenager and her mother (Locke's grandmother) referenced that the father of the baby was much older? Well, it made me think that maybe Locke's dad wasn't that guy, as, let's face it, he didn't look THAT much older than Locke. Yeah, I'm overthinking it. Need to stop.
I know there's the temptation to overthink it, but Anthony Cooper being Locke's dad has never been challenged by the show: I would assume he came, he conned, and he peaced out.
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